[IDNO:400] Re: [discuss] Re: a democracy can defend itself

Kevin M. Kelly (kevin@kellywebworks.com)
Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:46:28 -0500


Kevin J. Connolly wrote:
<snip>
> That's not how IDNO works. Only one person decides what will or will not
be put to a vote, and he determines the way in which issues will be put to a
vote without consulting the membership. Even as undemocratic an
organization as the United States House of Representatives allows the
Members of Congress to make motions, including motions in chief and
amendments. Here there is not even a pretense that a member can propose a
matter for discussion and voting.

It is my hope that we are working toward the formation of an organization
that is a least as democratic as the US House (I mean democratic in both US
senses of the word.) But this is a painful process that is taking time. A
number of individual (members of the CA) have asked for a cease-fire so we
can get on with that processes.

> More importantly, members of IDNO are subject to expulsion at the whim of
a single individual. All it takes at IDNO is for criticism to leak out (in
my case, I was guilty of the sin of not reviewing the headers after hitting
the reply button to a cross-posted message. Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea
minima culpa.)) whereupon one finds oneself . . . without notice, without
an opportunity to be heard, without a vote being conducted or the membership
being consulted . . . booted from membership. Expelled by fiat from on
high.

A number of us our troubled by this allegation. I can see that you are no
longer on the "list" and hope for some explanation. If you have been
expelled by fiat, I'm afraid others will follow by choice. Not as a sign of
support for your actions or position, but because your explusion sets an
unacceptable precedent.

Note added while proofing: John Reynolds has just resigned.

<snip>
>
> It's not hard to see the connection or the rationale for it. The
Executive Director of the IDNO is Jay Fenello, the promoter of the Iperdome
venture and a paid consultant for NSI. NSI's agenda has always been opposed
to ISOC, IAHC, and now ICANN, and IDNO has had a decidedly anti-ISOC bent,
as well as being opposed to the present configuration of ICANN. Denying
this element of IDNO's weltanschauung simply makes it look like IDNO is an
operating arm of Orwell's Ministry of Truth. <snip>

You lost me here. Jay is the connected with PDNO. I don't see a connection.
(Not that that diminishes your concerns.) I just don't see this
organization (the Cyberspace Association) as NSI mouth piece. A number of
individuals in the group are rabid anti-NSI and there are some rabid
anti-ISOC members as well. I see no obvious good guys and bad guys.

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