Re: [IDNO:504] Re: NCDNH

Kent Crispin (kent@songbird.com)
Sat, 19 Jun 1999 07:42:36 -0700


On Sat, Jun 19, 1999 at 07:45:43AM +0000, William X. Walsh wrote:
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>
> I won't get into what he was getting at...or how he gets there :)
>
> But in any event, I wasn't saying their rules were just :) just the
> opposite. My point was that these are the current criteria that are
> being used by the non-comm people.

You are incorrect in your understanding of the current membership
criteria:

The NCDNHC proposes that organizations holding domain names, which
are organized as not-for-profit under the laws of any jurisdiction
and are recognized as having primarily non-commercial purposes, and
organizations which, although not formally incorporated, are
recognized as having primarily noncommercial purposes, e.g.,
educational, religious, charitable, or professional, shall be
eligible for membership.

Membership is limited to organizations that are not also members of
other DNSO constituencies. We recognize that some organizations
that are non-profit and engage in non-commercial activities may be
eligible for other DNSO constituencies, but in order to focus the
efforts of the NCDNHC, such organizations are eligible for the
NCDNHC only if they elect not to join other constituencies.

In any case, it is interesting to watch you support Roeland in his
fanciful discussion of creating yet another fake organization to gain
representation. Here for your reading enjoyment is the language
produced by Milton Mueller in the ACM proposal for the NCDNSO:

CM-IGC submits that the goals of the Non-Commercial Constituency
should be made explicit and clear to all who review its organizing
documents. In light of ICANN's creation of no less than six other
constituencies to represent commercial entities and commercial
activities within the DNSO [two specifically commercial
constituencies: Commercial and business entities ("Business
Constituency") and Trademark, intellectual property,
anti-counterfeiting interests ("Trademark Constituency"), and four
technical constituencies comprised largely or entirely of
commercial entities: ccTLD registries, gTLD registries, ISPs and
connectivity providers, and Registrars], ACM-IGC believes the
Non-Commercial Constituency has a special place in the DNSO. It
must provide the voice and representation for organizations that
serve non-commercial interests and provide services such as
community organizing, promotion of the arts, children's welfare,
pure scientific research, and human rights. These organizations
are otherwise entirely unrepresented in the DNSO.

Roeland's attempt to shoehorn in a commercial entity in disguise is
just a little dishonest, don't you think?

In any case, your discussion of this on the IDNO list is certainly
off topic (though strangely, the list police have not said anything
about it), so I won't continue this thread.

-- 
Kent Crispin                               "Do good, and you'll be
kent@songbird.com                           lonesome." -- Mark Twain