PAB QUESTIONS OF LEGITIMAC HANG OVER DNS MEETING 1-2 july meeting

From: Sascha Ignjatovic (sascha@isoc.vienna.org)
Date: Tue Jul 07 1998 - 14:23:03 PDT


QUESTIONS OF LEGITIMAC HANG OVER DNS MEETING

                 Perhaps the most contentious point to come out of the
                 International Forum on the White paper (IFWP) last
                 week was whether or not those attending were a
                 representative sample of the internet, commonly
                 referred to these days as the "stakeholders." The
                 issue was raised early on and it quickly became
                 apparent that it would be a major bone of contention,
                 because if it could not be agreed that the 200 or so
                 people that attended over the two days represented
                 the stakeholders, then anything they agreed was
                 pretty meaningless.

                 That feeling was echoed by internet veteran Einar
                 Stefferud when he said, "nothing that comes out of
                 here is a decision." There were six working groups,
                 three on each day. In summing up the activities of
                 workshop 'B' on the first day, which was charged with
                 looking into the board of directors and the
                 membership of the non-profit entity to run the DNS,
                 group reporter Christopher Ambler, who was at the
                 conference representing himself, reported that the
                 group decided that "at some point you need to define
                 who the stakeholders are and...for now at least, we
                 are the stakeholders." That triggered many people to
                 address the microphone at the meeting and request
                 that some sort of technological solution be found
                 quickly to include those not able to physically attend
                 the meeting. But nothing was agreed. Jason Hendeles
                 - who runs a Canadian internet service provider -
                 proposed on the first day that there be a two week
                 period following the meeting for people to log on to
                 some sort of list or web site and from the group at the
                 meeting and the group online, a limited stakeholder
                 group be defined. He tried to put the motion to a vote,
                 but was met with a total lack of interest. That prompted
                 Steve Bellovin of AT&T Corp to come to the mike:
                 "This group has got a very serious issue of
                 legitimacy," he said. "we have no a prior mechanism
                 for legitimacy, we have to get people to buy in," he
                 added.

                 Many people we spoke to that evening expressed a
                 desire for some sort of agreement on whether the
                 debate should continue online, but were resigned to
                 the fact that such an agreement was not going to
                 happen and participants would merely retire to the
                 mailing lists of choice. Bearing in mind the meeting
                 was the IFWP for the Americas (note the plural),
                 perhaps not surprisingly it was dominated by US
                 representatives of companies in the internet
                 infrastructure business. There was a spattering of
                 Canadian ISP interests, but only one representative
                 from South America, Cabase, an ISP trade association
                 from Argentina, who complained to us that issues such
                 as telecommunications deregulation were not being
                 addressed, and one representative from the NIC in
                 Mexico. Users were also under-represented at the
                 IFWP.

                 The Center for Democracy and Technology and the
                 Domain Name Rights Coalition were both represented
                 and actively participated, but that was about the extent
                 of it. CDT's deputy director Danny Weitzner urged the
                 meeting to "reach out to the rest of the internet
                 community, not just the commercial interests." But in a
                 meeting dominated by commercial interests, with a
                 steering committee dominated by ISP and their trade
                 associations, it was never going to happen.



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