Re: PAB Composition of POC

Javier SOLA (jsola@aui.es)
Fri, 05 Dec 1997 18:16:00 +0100


Antony and PAB,

I fully agree. We need a formal proposal, but first we need it to take form.=
We have to understand which are the issues under discussion. This seems to=
me as a way of getting those issues out. Any question that I ask directs=
the answers, that is why I was reluctant to ask them in the first place,=
but I am very worried about not hearing any voices on this issue in PAB.=
That is why I have brought the questions out. I agree that we really have=
to work on it, bring out a formal proposal and vote. What I am afraid of is=
that all this will not take place before POC is forced to make a public=
RFC.

POC has annouced in Brussels that it would, very quickly, come out with a=
RFC on this issue, after consulting PAB. It has to go on with the plan.=
Meanwhile, very few individual voices have been heard in PAB. None of them=
proposed any specific changes in the proposal.

Please read the proposal and comment on it.

Javier

At 06:24 PM 4/12/97 -0500, Antony Van Couvering wrote:

>Javier,

>

>I think this is an extremely important issue, and that the PAB should be

>allowed to vote on this according to its formal procedures.

>

>Unlike the question of one-letter SLDs, this question is of the greatest

>importance. I urge you and the rest of the POC to take any answers to your

>ballot below to be an informal answer only, and I urge the subsequent Chair

>and Excom to take this matter up formally.

>

>I have already responded to POC at length on this subject, as an=
individual.

>

>Antony

>

>

>At 10:19 PM 12/4/97 +0100, Javier SOLA wrote:

>>PAB:

>>

>>The most important issue that we have on the table is the composition of

>>POC. The actual proposal is to add nine members to POC, all of them=
elected

>>by PAB, maintain the ones that are already there, except for ITU and WIPO

>>who become non-voting.

>>

>>- POC will therefore have:

>> 9 members elected by PAB

>> 2 members elected by CORE

>> 7 ex-officio voting members

>> 2 ex-officio non-voting members

>>

>>I will try to ask very specific questions. If you think other questions

>>should be added, please say so.

>>

>>Please answer, even if it is only to agree with the proposal.

>>

>>The proposal says about the new seats:

>>

>> Include in POC representatives of the following groups:

>>

>> 1. Operators and service providers - (3 representatives)

>> 2. Business organizations other than operators and service providers (2

>>representatives)

>> 3. Consumers (1 representative)

>> 4. At large members distributed geographically:

>> a. Americas - one

>> b. Europe, Africa and the Middle East - one

>> c. Asia-Pacific - one

>>

>>1) Do you think that this distribution includes all the major players ?

>>

>>2) Is it fair to the parties involved (constituencies) ? (excluding CORE

>>and ex-officio, in this question)

>>

>>2b) Do you think that geographical distribution could be attained in some

>>other way ?

>>

>>3) Would you propose any changes ?

>>

>>4) Do you think that constituency representatives should only be voted by

>>PAB members that are part of that constituency or by all members of PAB ?

>>

>>The proposal says that the following shall continue to be members of POC:

>>

>> 1. Two persons appointed by ISOC

>> 2. Two persons appointed by IANA

>> 3. Two persons appointed by IAB

>> 4. Two persons appointed by CORE

>> 5. One person appointed by INTA=09

>> 6. One person appointed by WIPO (with non-voting status)

>> 7. One person appointed by ITU (with non-voting status)

>>

>>5) Do you agree with this ? Do you want to add a counter proposal ?

>>

>>6) Do you think that the overall composition of POC as a whole represents

>>all the interests in the Internet in a fair way (if such a thing exists) ?

>>

>>Javier

>>

>>---------------------------------------------------

>>

>>The proposal:

>>

>>_____________________________

>>

>>At the meeting of POC held in Brussels on 24 and 25 November, we

>>addressed the single most serious issue remaining to be decided by POC,

>>namely how to fulfill our publicly stated commitment to propose a plan

>>for expansion of the POC. =09

>> Two days of meetings produced what I believe is a rough consensus. I

>>recognize that the emphasis is on "rough". There were strongly held

>>views on some subjects that may be outside the consensus set forth

>>below. This draft is being posted to both POC and PAB for discussion and

>>comment before it is released to the public for further discussion and

>>comment. THIS DOCUMENT SHOULD NOT BE MADE PUBLIC UNTIL POC AND PAB HAVE

>>HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW IT.=20

>>********************************************************************

>> DRAFT

>>

>> The rough consensus of the Policy Oversight Commitee (=93POC=94)=
regarding

>>expansion of the POC to represent more clearly the entire spectrum of

>

>>interests of the stakeholders of the Internet community is described in

>>this document. As a part of the consensus, the POC has decided to

>>solicit public comment on the expansion proposal.

>>=09

>> I. Introduction

>>=09

>> From the inception of the International Ad Hoc Committee (=93IAHC=94) in

>>September, 1997, the IAHC and its successors, the interim POC, and now

>>the POC have explicitly and publicly recognized the need for

>>evolutionary growth and development of the entire program for expansion

>>of the generic top level domain name system, including the composition

>>of the POC. The IAHC was formed and chartered by the Internet Assigned

>>Numbers Authority (=93IANA=94) and the Internet Society (=93ISOC=94) to=
develop

>>this expansion program. The original eleven members of the IAHC were

>>chosen to represent as broad as possible a range of interests in the

>>Internet community, as to be geographically distributed. The selection

>>of members succeeded in bringing together a diversity of views and a

>>geographically well distributed group, but the limitation to eleven

>>members, and the selection process, directed initially by IANA and ISOC,

>>has been criticized as not giving explicit recognition to some interest

>>groups.

>>

>> The gTLD-MoU now provides that the POC consists of twelve members

>>appointed as follows:

>> IANA - two appointments

>> ISOC - two appointments

>> Internet Architecture Board (=93IAB=94) - two appointments

>> Council of Registrars (=93CORE=94) - two appointments

>> International Trademark Association (=93INTA=94) - one appointment

>> World Intellectual Property Organization (=93WIPO=94) - one appointment

>> International Telecommunications Union (=93ITU=94) - one appointment

>> Representative of the Depository of the Memorandum of Understanding on

>>the Generic Top Level Domain Name Space of the Internet Domain

>>Name System (=93gTLD-MoU=94) (the ITU) - one appointment

>>

>> The POC has agreed to an amendment to the gTLD-MoU to provide for the

>>appointment of two additional members to be appointed by the Policy

>>Advisory Body (=93PAB=94). Pending the formal amendment, which requires

>>action by IANA and ISOC, PAB has appointed two observers to POC.

>>=20

>> Terms of the above appointments are for three years, except that the

>>organizations appointing two members initially appoint one for a one

>>year term, and the other for a three year term. The gTLD-MoU directs

>>each appointing group to endeavour to achieve equitable geographic

>>distribution.

>>

>> (Further explanation of the identity and composition of the appointing

>>bodies referred to above may be found at the POC web site:

>>http://www.gtld-mou.org.)=20

>>

>> II. The Consensus

>>

>> In fulfillment of the promise of an evolutionary process, the POC has

>>reached consensus on an expansion of POC to be achieved over a period of

>>eighteen months, with an appropriate transitional structure to ensure

>>stability in the administration of the gTLD-MoU program.

>>

>> Effective upon formal adoption by POC of this expansion program, and

>>for a period of eighteen months thereafter, the gTLD-MoU will be amended

>>to provide that POC shall have twenty members as follows:

>>

>

>> The PAB will have the power to elect nine members of POC. Nominations

>>may be made by any member of PAB; each PAB member may nominate not more

>>than one nominee; nominees need not necessarily be connected or

>>affiliated with the nominating organization. Each nomination shall

>>include a designation of the nominee as falling within one of the

>>following classifications:

>> 1. Operators and service providers - three

>> 2. Business organizations other than operators and service providers -

>>two

>> 3. Consumers - one

>> 4. At large members distributed geographically:

>> a. Americas - one

>> b. Europe, Africa and the Middle East - one

>> c. Asia-Pacific - one

>>Nominations by PAB shall be completed within one month following

>>adoption of this expansion program by POC, and elections of members

>>shall be conducted not later than three months following adoption. Each

>>PAB member must select one and only one of the first three

>>classifications in which it will cast one vote, and must select one and

>>only one of the three geographic areas in which it may cast one

>>additional vote. The nominees receiving the highest number of votes in

>>each category will be elected.

>>

>> The following shall continue to be members of POC:

>> 1. Two persons appointed by ISOC

>> 2. Two persons appointed by IANA

>> 3. Two persons appointed by IAB

>> 4. Two persons appointed by CORE

>> 5. One person appointed by INTA=09

>> 6. One person appointed by WIPO (with non-voting status)

>> 7. One person appointed by ITU (with non-voting status)

>>

>> Prior to the expiration of the eighteen month transition period, the

>>POC shall determine, by vote of not less than two-thirds of the voting

>>members of POC, the composition of the POC thereafter in whatever form

>>the POC may determine.=20

>> The gTLD-MoU shall further be amended to provide that, effective at the

>>expiration of the eighteen month transition period, the gTLD-MoU may

>>thereafter be amended by vote of at least two-thirds of the voting

>>members of POC.

>>=20

>

>

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