Re: News from the ORSC

Michael Sondow (msondow@iciiu.org)
Sat, 19 Dec 1998 12:32:33 -0500


If the ORSC or MHSC are going to register SO domain names and
incorporate, I don't see how they can accuse CORE or anyone else of
trying to coopt the DNSO.

Kent Crispin a écrit:
>
> Thought you all might find this message from the ORSC list somewhat
> interesting...
>
> ----- Forwarded message from "Roeland M.J. Meyer" <rmeyer@mhsc.com> -----
>
> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 11:33:49 -0800
> To: domain-policy@open-rsc.org
> From: "Roeland M.J. Meyer" <rmeyer@mhsc.com>
> Subject: !Oh shit, it just got serious!
> Reply-To: domain-policy@open-rsc.org
>
> As of this morning DNSO.NET is in the roots. Since Richard has DNSO.COM
> this leaves the DNSO folk with only DNSO.ORG. Note that DNSO.COM is on HOLD
> status, while DNSO.NET is not only active, but has a web-server attached at
> <http://www.dnso.net>. There is also a <http://download.dnso.net>, both are
> being run out of www.svcs.mhsc.net, and MHSC production host. This host is
> running Apache with SSL and mod_perl extentions and I am adding server-side
> java capability now, so we can do some really cool stuff with it,
> web-server-wise.
>
> I did this primarily as a stress-reliever, I needed to do something funny
> and light-hearted. For that purpose, personally, it worked. I had a good
> time with it. However, there is a serious side to it as well. Those who
> know me well, know that I *never* do something with *only* a single
> purpose, or even just two purposes. It appears that Stef just instantiated
> the serious side of all this.
>
> I had envisioned that DNSO.NET could be an operational arm of a DNSO, where
> root.zone data is managed and distributed as well as, other network
> operations of a DNSO. This is very much the way MHSC is organized, in that,
> MHSC.COM is the business end and MHSC.NET is the operations end of the same
> organization. The location of DNSO.NET can be changed with a simple DNS
> entry so I can re-assign it anywhere I want to, if that is requested of me.
>
> Vaguely, what I had in mind, was distribution of basic root.zone, as
> discussed on the IFWP list. This has value-add to the current ISP
> community. I am RTFMing the ListServ docs now (if anyone has a better
> suggestion for mailer-list software, I am all ears). In addition, the ORSC
> root.zone can be distributed via a similar mechanism, rather a different
> list. The ISP can then choose which list to join.
>
> Realize this also, DNSO.NET is running on a system which is using the ORSC
> root.zone for BIND resolution. This means that ALL ORSC TLDs have access to
> this server. In other words, DNSO.NET is INCLUSIVE by default.
>
> Operationally, we still have much to discuss.
> 1) We need to define operationally, what a DNSO would do.
> 2) MHSC.NET does not have the bandwidth that VRX.NET has, is this an issue?
> 3) We need to get DNSO.COM out of HOLD status now and instantiate it properly.
> 4) For the present, MHSC.NET will absorb the cost of operating DNSO.NET.
> 5) Other issues need to be presented.
>
> At 12:18 AM 12/18/98 , Einar Stefferud wrote:
> >On the subject of formig a more open DNSO, I suggest that ORSC is
> >perhaps well positioned to do so, and I strongly suggest that the ORSC
> >version should promptly incorporate in Deleware, as that is where we
> >know how to do it quickly and efficiently, and where we can obtain the
> >right kind of non-profit trade association with proper accountability
> >to its membership. I suggest the name be "DNSO.COM, Inc."
>
> DNSO.NET is instantiated as "Domain Name Services Organization".
>
> Thank you.
>
> >ORSC should now lead an effort to create a set of bylaws that
> >incorporate as much as possible from the current ORSC bylaws submitted
> >to to NTIA as a counter to ICANN, and also meld in as much as posible
> >from the latest DSNO.ORG draft, and also obtain recommendations from
> >iaTLD, and other DNS/TLD groups and organizations.
> >
> >ORSC has experience in running open mailing lists with civil discourse
> >rules, and we will be pleased to apply that experience here.
> >
> >Our objective will be to draw into this new effort all possible DNS
> >stakeholders.
> >
> >Do we have any takers? Who wants to go for it with a real outreach
> >and effort to really pull everyone into it.
>
> ___________________________________________________
> Roeland M.J. Meyer -
> e-mail: mailto:rmeyer@mhsc.com
> Internet phone: hawk.lvrmr.mhsc.com
> Personal web pages: http://staff.mhsc.com/~rmeyer
> Company web-site: http://www.mhsc.com
> ___________________________________________________
> Who is John Galt?
> - "Atlas Shrugged" - Ayn Rand
>
> ----- End forwarded message -----
>
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