RE: [IDNO:345] Re: List mechanics

Roeland M.J. Meyer (rmeyer@mhsc.com)
Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:12:09 -0700


I tend to agree with William here. Openness is one thing and if Kent
were an unknown quantity I mught not be so vociferous. However, Kent is
a very well and understood quantity. There have been allusions made to
MacCarthyist behaviour. However, most American thinkers would never have
allowed Stalin, or any other sovreign, a voice in Congress. This is the
issue. It is not only a matter of an opposing view. Kent is of the firm
opinion that individual domain name owners are hobbyists, nothing more,
and deserve no voice in serious Internet policy making. Kent only
supports Organizations in this role, the larger the better.

Granted, the previous deductions were derived from having read his
opinions and observed his actions, on many lists, over a period of over
two years. Kent has never directly espoused these views. He might even
deny them. This is the main problem with Kent, he lies. He says whatever
is expedient, then does what he wants. His words do not match his
actions, he doesn't walk his talk. To allow him free reign here is
tantamount to having Mike Roberts on the IFWP steering committee. Many
of us sadly know the results of that. Mike subverted and killed the IFWP
movement. Allowing Kent in this assembly would beg a similar result for
this organization.

The issue of David Crocker is slightly different. He is not nearly as
overt as Kent. However, it is my experience that he will make us crazy,
by running us down endless rat-holes, until we wind up chasing our own
tails. Dave is quite good at it, he has had a lot of practice. However,
by itself, this is no reason to exclude him from our discussions. If we
can not recognize rat-holes when they are presented to us then we have
other problems.

As a group, what we need to learn is some self-discipline. We need to
not be emotional and we need to learn to focus our attentions to the
task at hand.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: William X. Walsh [mailto:william@dso.net]
> Sent: Monday, June 14, 1999 9:41 AM
> To: Kent Crispin
> Cc: idno@radix.co.nz
> Subject: [IDNO:345] Re: List mechanics
>
>
> On Mon, 14 Jun 1999 07:51:28 -0700, Kent Crispin <kent@songbird.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> >You do need to define what is on-topic, then.
>
> And you still need to address the question about what your intentions
> are here, since you oppose the concepts and goals of the IDNO.
>
> Your silence on this question is perhaps the most telling thing. If
> your intentions were positive, there would be no hesitation in
> presenting an answer.
>
> That you have repeatedly refused to answer the question is turning
> into proof enough of your intentions.
>
>
>
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