Re: Pearls

richard (leigh@sedona.net)
Thu, 18 Sep 1997 12:49:31 -0700


>Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 10:18:06 -0700
>To: kehs@aonix.com
>From: richard <leigh@sedona.net>
>Subject: Re: Pearls
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>Hi Dave or good morning or whatever,
>
>Could that editing type be me? Actually I am copying and saving solutions
>(that is proposed solutions) Hijacked is a loaded word for sure, and that
>would be a danger fro either group. My vision of this would include any
>trip of any type. Outfitted with or without guides, the contemporary
>"commercial trip", private with or without guides, cooks, rental equipt.
>whatever.
>
>Quite frankly I think there has to be some sort of allocation systemand
>I'm not sure how to put it together with all this freedom I have proposed.
>At the NPS meetings there have been many proposals made. One offered by
>John Vail, owner of Outdoors Unlimited is very good. In a "smokey back
>room" type of meeting, I agreed not to publish his idea until he had a
>chance to work it out a little more and he wished to have the outfitters
>newsletter publish it first, then I would be free to run with it. I
>agreed, as it is his idea, and I can understand his desire for he, and
>the commercial community to take credit for it. Basically it is a closely
>tracked reservation system that would guarantee everyone a launch date, it
>might be twenty years from now but at least they would have a date. It
>might develop that smaller trips became the norm, which if that were the
>case would allow more launches and thereby speed up the launch dates. I
>will go into greater detail at a later time.
>
>To really have any effect, the privates need more launch dates, where they
>are to come from is the question. It seems every side is going to have to
>give a little. From my point of view the privates don't have much to
>give...but somebody might be able to point out some place where they
>could. I f you added 50 launches a year that would only cut the current
>wait five years. Right now for every year that goes by, three years is
>added to the wait...so actually just to stay current, privates need 650
>launches a year, the same as the commercial sector enjoys.
>
>How to be fair to all? What is fair? Right now it seems to boil down to
>equal waits for everyone. Man isn't this a problem, the "forever eddy" of
>them all.
>
>I note that some folks on this list think commercials are getting a bit
>beat up. Sorry if you think that's coming from me, I hope that's not the
>impression I or the GCPBA is leaving behind. Commercial companies are
>fine, and the guides are my friends and are great. Guide vs employeer
>relations are not an issue (although I have opinions) in the CRMP process.
>I think those issues are best left to the GC River Guides.
>
>Surely Dave, with all these questions, you must be starting to see a
>solution. Please forward all those solutions to me...everbody has an
>idea...it's good to poke holes in those ideas, so as we don't row off in
>haste, and then flip the boat, ...but after the long scout you gotta go
>for it...maybe we've scouted these issues for too long, none of the rocks
>has moved, and the flow of those wishing to private boat is getting
>stronger by the minute. Personally, I'm gonna go for it.
>
>TaTa (or in Tahitian, Na Na)
>Ricardo/Richard gcpba editor
>
>

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