> > I don't agree with the advertised into
> > the GC system, and think a better system is your suggestion of
allocation
> > if we can solve the advertising $ scalping, or go to freedom of choice.
> > FOC, by the bye, also has this same need for advertising $ scalping
> > safegaurds, doesn't it.
>
> I don't see what you're getting at here. Why is advertising a problem,
> other than the fact that its costs are passed on to commercial
> customers?
>
If i want to sell widgits, and you do too, we compete. You advertise and i
don't. Who gets the market share?? Concessionaires advertise for a scarce
resource, that non commercial boaters don't advertise for. This is not fair
in a strictly business sense, nor in a fixed resource sense. Is it??? Let
me know if this is not clear to you. Can anyone else help to explain this
better then i. Please do.
> > Again, i strugle with an allocation ,model that serves the folk who can
> > afford it, while those who can simply don't. Those folk who are in the
> > canyon a bunch can help me out here when i ask this question "how many
> > people of color do you see on the water?" You'll see NONE in the
outfitters
> > brochures.
>
> I'm not sure what being a person of color has to do with any of this.
> Is there some kind of discrimination going on?
you tell me. Maybe...it might be called price discrimination.
>
> > > 3. Repeaters
> >
> > This was an argument put forth by the concessionaires as a way to
manage an
> > out of control wait list. No one i've talked to outside of GCROA, the
> > outfitters lobby, wants this.
>
> I've also read it a couple of times on the riveraccess list.
>
> > True. But this chap is supposed to be the TL, and is only allowed to go
one
> > other time. All other river users go as often as they like. This
penalizes
> > the folks who get on the WL. What does that do to our indicator of
demand?
>
> As far as I'm concerned, the trip leader can go on as many other trips
> as he/she likes. The effect on the "indicator of demand" would be to
> reduce the average waiting time for private trip leaders to access
> the river. A low average waiting time means that the private allocation
> is sufficient to meet private "demand".
>
If private trips were launching with all folk waiting roughly the same as
commercial folk ie booking for next year, then the word sufficient is right
in there. A worthy goal, well said. So whatever type of allocation or
freedom plan we adopt, it sounds like anyone should be able to go/apply as
often as they want. Got that Ben? rule # 1.
we'll sleep when we are on the river....t
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