> But this cuts both ways. If i can't afford a commercial trip, maybe i'll
> try it with my friends. Should Powell not have tried a river trip because
> there was no commercial outfitter.
And I think you should have the right to make that decision. Are you
suggesting that we should move to a system where there are no
commercial outfitters?
> I don't agree with the advertised into
> the GC system, and think a better system is your suggestion of allocation
> if we can solve the advertising $ scalping, or go to freedom of choice.
> FOC, by the bye, also has this same need for advertising $ scalping
> safegaurds, doesn't it.
I don't see what you're getting at here. Why is advertising a problem,
other than the fact that its costs are passed on to commercial
customers?
> Again, i strugle with an allocation ,model that serves the folk who can
> afford it, while those who can simply don't. Those folk who are in the
> canyon a bunch can help me out here when i ask this question "how many
> people of color do you see on the water?" You'll see NONE in the outfitters
> brochures.
I'm not sure what being a person of color has to do with any of this.
Is there some kind of discrimination going on?
> > 3. Repeaters
>
> This was an argument put forth by the concessionaires as a way to manage an
> out of control wait list. No one i've talked to outside of GCROA, the
> outfitters lobby, wants this.
I've also read it a couple of times on the riveraccess list.
> True. But this chap is supposed to be the TL, and is only allowed to go one
> other time. All other river users go as often as they like. This penalizes
> the folks who get on the WL. What does that do to our indicator of demand?
As far as I'm concerned, the trip leader can go on as many other trips
as he/she likes. The effect on the "indicator of demand" would be to
reduce the average waiting time for private trip leaders to access
the river. A low average waiting time means that the private allocation
is sufficient to meet private "demand".
>
> Som far so good. Lets just work out the bumps.
No argument with that one.
Dave
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