Re: NCDNHC Application and Information Form

From: Kent Crispin (kent@SONGBIRD.COM)
Date: Tue May 30 2000 - 10:46:59 PDT


On Tue, May 30, 2000 at 12:17:21PM -0300, Raul Echeberria wrote:
> At 10:56 30/05/00 -0400, Milton Mueller wrote:
> >Vany is right.
[...]
> >I strongly support and second the IDNO's application.
> >
>
> I suggested the modification in the charter to allow the membership of
> organizations which represents individuals. Therefore, I support and second
> the IDNO's application too.

The application is completely and utterly invalid, and you, Vany, and
Milton are clearly not doing anything remotely resembling the necessary
due diligence. The IDNO itself does not support the application.

Roeland Meyer posted the following on the idno list. Note especially the
line about "Falsely applying for NCDNHC membership":

> From idno-discuss-admin@idno.org Mon May 29 10:41:09 2000
> From: "Roeland Meyer \(E-mail\)" <rmeyer@mhsc.com>
> Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 10:36:47-0700
> To: <karl.peters@bridgecompanies.com>,
> "'Joop Teernstra'" <terastra@terabytz.co.nz>
> Cc: <karl@cavebear.com>, <measday@josmarian.ch>,
> <idno-discuss@idno.org>
> Subject: [idno] Censure Mark Measday
> Reply-To: <rmeyer@mhsc.com>
>
> Karl,
>
> It is not Joop that needs the break. It is you that have an issue
> with Mark, since Mark included YOUR name in the NCDNHC
> application. It was a logical inference that Mark did so with
> your permission. I certainly made that same conclusion.
>
> It appears that Mark is now guilty of two severe acts of
> impropriety;
>
> 1) Using the identity of Karl Peters improperly.
> 2) Falsely applying for NCDNHC membership, under IDNO auspices.
>
> I have just forwarded a copy of the membership application and my
> response to it, in the NCDNHC, for evaluation here. Although, I
> also made a unilateral action, I believe that it was righteous
> and justified. I also avoided false color of authority, unlike Mark.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: idno-discuss-admin@idno.org[mailto:idno-discuss-admin@idno.org]
> On Behalf Of Karl E. Peters
> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2000 5:03 AM
> To: Joop Teernstra
> Cc: karl@cavebear.com; measday@josmarian.ch;idno-discuss@idno.org
> Subject: Re: [idno] A modest proposal. -Karl E. Peters
>
>
> It appears that Mark Measday has put in an application (together with
> Karl Peters?) unilaterally. I feel that this should have been debated
> first and subjected to a members' vote.
>
> --Joop Teernstra LL.M.--
>
>
> FOR THE RECORD:
> I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY APPLICATION OF THE CA-IDNO TO
> ANYTHING! ON WHAT SUPPOSITIONS WAS THIS ACCUSATION MADE? (THE
> FACT THAT I RECENTLY WAS CRITICAL OF MARK'S AND OTHER'S
> ATTITUDE ABOUT THE DEMISE OF THE CA-IDNO?)
>
> YOU DO NEED A BREAK, JOOP!!!
>
> SINCERELY,
> KARL E. PETERS
>
> karl.peters@bridgecompanies.com

-- 
Kent Crispin                               "Do good, and you'll be
kent@songbird.com                           lonesome." -- Mark Twain

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