Re: [ncc-charter] another try and text on non-voting

From: Adam Peake (ajp@glocom.ac.jp)
Date: Thu Sep 07 2000 - 23:05:26 PDT

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    Dany,

    I believe Rob Courtney also favored option 2 for the replacement "accession
    of the AdCom member with the fourth-highest level of votes" etc.

    I would avoid "unanimous" (it requires people to respond, perhaps in a
    timely manner), but no point arguing, Milton's new words are acceptable to
    me:

    Non-voting members can participate in Constituency discussion lists,
    propose and discuss resolutions and participate in all physical meetings.
    Non-voting members have no voting rights in the constituency and its
    processes and cannot participate in constituency Adcom teleconference calls
    unless invited by unanimous consent of Adcom members.

    OK to proceed as far as I'm concerned.

    Thanks,

    Adam

    >On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, Milton Mueller wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> ----- Original Message -----
    >> From: "Dany Vandromme"
    >>
    >> > > Note, I used "should not" rather the "cannot" re. participation in Adcom
    >> > > calls to give room for the Adcom to invite a non voting members if such
    >> > > need arose.
    >>
    >> This can be improved, see below.
    >>
    >> > > Associations or organizations whose specific goals are to represent
    >> > > the interests of registries, registrars or ISPs or those whose
    >> > > specific interests are to defend the Intellectual Property rights of
    >> > > their associates cannot have full member status but may participate
    >> > > as non-voting members.
    >> > >
    >> > > Non-voting members can participate in Constituency discussion lists,
    >> > > propose and discuss resolutions and participate in all physical
    >> > > meetings. *Non-voting members have no voting rights in the
    >> > > constituency and its processes* and should not participate in
    >> > > constituency Adcom teleconference calls.
    >>
    >> Question: what does a non-voting member do to become a "non-voting member"?
    >> I assume that there is language somewhere that requires them to go through
    >> the same application process as voting members. If not, this must be
    >> addressed in your revisions.
    >>
    >> Replace last part of last sentence with: "cannot participate in constituency
    >> Adcom teleconference calls unless invited by unanimous consent of Adcom
    >> members."
    >>
    >> > > We understand that many subgroups have separate interests and a
    >> > > separate voice from their parent organizations. Those subgroups are
    >> > > welcome to participate fully and actively in the Constituency as
    >> > > non-voting members.
    >>
    >> OK
    >>
    >> > > [New Text]
    >> > > |Political organizations that are non-governmental are eligible for
    >> > > |voting status. A political organization shall be considered
    >> > > |"non-governmental" if its primary purpose is to influence governmental
    >> > > |or public policy, but not to hold governmental offices or to elect
    >> > > |government officials. Ineligible political organizations are those
    >> > > |whose primary purpose is to hold government offices and/or elect
    >> > > |government officials. In unclear or borderline cases, the voting
    >> status
    >> > > |of a political organization will be decided by the constituency
    >> > > |membership after review of the application on its merits.
    >> > >
    >> > >
    >>
    >-
    >Last suggestions of Milton are OK for me.
    >
    >Can we proceed now with others points:
    >I submitted a 2 option choice for the replacement article.
    >So far, option 2 seems to be supported by Vany, Adam and myself, whereas
    >Option 1 is supported (at least) by Milton.
    >
    >Could we go to a decison about that quickly, and get the adcom/nc election
    >process started, together with the posting of the charter proposal to the
    >constituency?
    >
    >Let me remind you that we are already late, and things are getting worst
    >everyday (in terms of schedule).
    >
    >Best regards
    >
    >Dany
    >>
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