Esther Dyson
At 08:24 AM 10/01/99 -0800, Dave Winer wrote:
>Absolutely hands down the best SGML editor out there is BBEdit/Mac. I think
>it's about $89 street price. It's a text editor that understands SGML
>structures. It does syntax checking and syntax coloring. It's a beautiful
>piece of software, written by people with real software integrity. I'm
>cc'ing this to Rich Siegel, the president of the company that makes BBEdit
- siegel@barebones.com (Rich Siegel)
>
>Beyond that the rest are klooges, attempts to build structural editors
>without a good framework for editing structure.
>
>Dave
>
>
>At 10:59 AM 1/10/99 -0500, Esther Dyson wrote:
>>This is not my area, but I recall that Yuri Rubinsky... Wait, I've got a
>>better idea.
>>
>>Dave - Is there a useful, cheap (or OS) SGML editor out there? COuld you
>>help us out, please? (I left the history in, but you don't need to read it
>>if you are rushed.)
>>
>>Thanks, Happy New Year!
>>
>>Esther
>>
>>At 07:47 PM 09/01/99 -0800, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
>>>None that let be be as productive as I am with Word. I have the Linux
>>>Documentation Project package so I can write HOW-TO's and I can do
>>>man-pages. It's like stepping back into the Victorian age. If I could find
>>>a WYSIWYG SGML processor, at a decent price, I'd switch the whole company
>>>over tomorrow. FrameMaker+SGML is good enough, but the price, company-wide,
>>>is prohibitive ($2KUS per worker times the number of workers per year <ugh>
>>>my wallet hurts.).
>>>
>>>At 09:02 PM 1/9/99 -0500, Esther Dyson wrote:
>>>>Aren't there some open source versions floating around? I'm sure
>someone at
>>>>least has a cheap and dirty SGML editor....
>>>>
>>>>Esther
>>>>
>>>>At 03:06 PM 09/01/99 -0800, Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote:
>>>>>At 12:10 AM 1/10/99 +0200, Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
>>>>>>Ellen,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>In message <v01540b11b2bc2f01db06@[204.188.254.45]>, Ellen Rony writes:
>>>>>>> >At 07:54 PM 1/8/99 +0200, Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
>>>>>>> >>Anthony,
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>I can not read Microsnot formats. Can you please send it to me in
>>>>>>> >>another format, please? I am particularily fond of SGML and there
>is a
>>>>>>> >>SGML authoring package for word somewhere.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Saving and sending the file as RTF (Rich Text Format) should resolve
>this
>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Actually, Microsnot changes its RTF without telling anyone so it
>>>>>>difficult for the Open Source Community to keep up with it. I can not
>>>>>>read RTF produced by the current Word.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>SGML is ok, unfortunately they charge 500$ for the authoring software.
>>>>>
>>>>>I just checked Adobe FramMaker+SGML is currently going for $1900US.
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/framemaker/prodinfosgml.html
>>>>>
>>>>>Which one are you looking at for $500US?
>>>>>___________________________________________________
>>>>>Roeland M.J. Meyer -
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>>>>>___________________________________________________
>>>>>I hold it, that a little rebellion, now and then, is a good thing...
>>>>> -- Thomas Jefferson
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Esther Dyson Always make new mistakes!
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>>>
>>>___________________________________________________
>>>Roeland M.J. Meyer -
>>>e-mail: mailto:rmeyer@mhsc.com
>>>Internet phone: hawk.lvrmr.mhsc.com
>>>Personal web pages: http://staff.mhsc.com/~rmeyer
>>>Company web-site: http://www.mhsc.com
>>>___________________________________________________
>>>I hold it, that a little rebellion, now and then, is a good thing...
>>> -- Thomas Jefferson
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>Esther Dyson Always make new mistakes!
>>chairman, EDventure Holdings
>>interim chairman, Internet Corp. for Assigned Names & Numbers
>>edyson@edventure.com
>>1 (212) 924-8800
>>1 (212) 924-0240 fax
>>104 Fifth Avenue (between 15th and 16th Streets; 20th floor)
>>New York, NY 10011 USA
>>http://www.edventure.com
>>
>>High-Tech Forum in Europe: October 1999, Budapest
>>PC Forum: 21 to 24 March 1999, Scottsdale (Phoenix), Arizona
>>Book: "Release 2.0: A design for living in the digital age"
>>
>>
>>
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Esther Dyson Always make new mistakes!
chairman, EDventure Holdings
interim chairman, Internet Corp. for Assigned Names & Numbers
edyson@edventure.com
1 (212) 924-8800
1 (212) 924-0240 fax
104 Fifth Avenue (between 15th and 16th Streets; 20th floor)
New York, NY 10011 USA
http://www.edventure.com
High-Tech Forum in Europe: October 1999, Budapest
PC Forum: 21 to 24 March 1999, Scottsdale (Phoenix), Arizona
Book: "Release 2.0: A design for living in the digital age"